中国最新重型攻击直升机酷似美国阿帕奇直升机!

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阳光使者 2024-3-25 17:24:40 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
3月21日,多个中国和西方社交媒体应用程序上出现了多张图片和视频,展示了一架此前不为人知的中国攻击直升机。 这种新型直升机与中国目前装备的Z-19轻型攻击/侦察直升机和Z-10中型攻击直升机有很大不同。 然而,中国互联网上的一些人表示,该直升机是该国Z-xx重型攻击直升机计划的副产品。 一些人表示,如果这款攻击直升机在中国人民解放军 (PLA) 的直升机中队投入使用,其编号将是Z-21(直-21)。

中国最新重型攻击直升机酷似美国阿帕奇直升机Z-21(直-21)!

中国最新重型攻击直升机酷似美国阿帕奇直升机Z-21(直-21)!

Oghuzkhan
39分钟前
Turkish ATAK-2 heavyweight helicopter is much more modern with the sensors and radars. This helicopter has 2100 HP engine the Turkish one will have 2500 HP engines. So in all aspects it will be better

土耳其 ATAK-2 重型直升机的传感器和雷达更加现代化。该直升机的发动机功率为 2100 HP,而土耳其的发动机功率为 2500 HP。因此在各方面它都会更胜一筹!


Lazgkhn
34分钟前
The ATAK-2 doesn’t exist yet. And also the engines doesn’t exist yet. Plus you don’t know anything about the Chinese helicopter.

ATAK-2 还不存在,发动机也还不存在。另外,你对中国直升机一无所知。


Tiagogomes
1小时前
So this Helicopter is not a copy at all.It's an attack Helicopter, they are all pretty alike (except for the KA-52).

所以,这架直升机根本不是复制品。这是一种攻击直升机,它们都非常相似(除了 KA-52)。


Umarmurtaza
2小时前
If china can easily copy your tech then u are a failing military who cant protect thier secrets

如果中国可以轻而易举地复制你们的技术,那么你们就是一支失败的军队,无法保护自己的秘密。


Susmaryusep
4小时前
BUT CHINA CANT COPY BRAIN OF US PILOTS

但中国无法复制我们飞行员的大脑!


Dogeboi
4小时前
When a foreign attack helicopter designed to serve the role of an apache looks like the apache:Americans: omg chinese copy everything

当一架外国攻击直升机被设计成阿帕奇直升机的样子时,美国人:哎呀,中国人什么都抄!


Douginorlando
5小时前
Imagine every attack helicopter being accompanied by 100 weaponized DJI drones… protecting the chopper and sweeping through the battlefield (no place to hide, no place to survive).

想象一下,每架攻击直升机上都有 100 架武器化的大疆无人机......保护直升机,横扫战场(无处藏身,无处生存)。


Ivanstepanovic
5小时前
Attack helicopters are useful only if you have full air superiority and suppressed the enemy air defense, at least locally. Otherwise, they will inevitably get destroyed, as we see in Ukraine. The role of attack helicopters can be taken by drones for attack along the frontline, in contested airspace which also is less risky.

攻击直升机只有在完全掌握制空权并压制敌方防空力量(至少在局部)的情况下才有用。否则,它们将不可避免地被摧毁,就像我们在乌克兰看到的那样。无人机可以取代攻击直升机的作用,在有争议的空域沿前线进行攻击,这样风险也更小。


Greatestytcom
5小时前
Probably bought an Apache from the Taliban....and copied it

可能是从塔利班那里买了一架阿帕奇....然后抄袭了它!


Karolis
7小时前
People who say that China plagiarized, first look at their own country has the ability to plagiarize, and then look at all countries' weapons and equipment what do they look like

说中国抄袭的人,先看看自己国家有没有抄袭的能力,再看看所有国家的武器装备都长什么样?


Foshizzlfizzl
8小时前
In my opinion, it has nothing to do with the Apache at all...

在我看来,这与阿帕奇一点关系都没有...


RUnAwayer
8小时前
The main factor is a price, if its 2 times cheaper, its good, in real war, does not matter,copy or original.

主要因素是价格,如果便宜 2 倍,那就是好的,在实战中,无所谓仿制或原创。


TheHouse
9小时前
Coming at a time when even modern attack helicopters are becoming obsolete thanks to ever advancing air defense systems

由于防空系统的不断进步,就连现代攻击直升机也变得过时了。


Tiagogomes
1小时前
Not absolete at all.They are easy targets on the front line but a Formidable weapon behond enemy lines.They give a capability no other equipment gives.In an attack to a Enemy airfield half of them won't survive.But if you take control of that airfield it is worth it. You now can air lift troops.The alternative is to push on the front and lose thousands of soldiers and tons of equipment...

一点也不过时,它们在前线很容易成为目标,但在敌后却是强大的武器。它们具有其他装备所不具备的能力。在攻击敌方机场时,一半的飞机都无法幸存。但如果您控制了机场,那就值得了。您现在可以空运部队。另一种选择是在前线推进,损失成千上万的士兵和成吨的装备......


Moitreeshsaha
10小时前
The Russian helicopters have to visibly spot the target and pick off targets one at a time.A the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, Russian attack helicopters were attacking targets from less than 1km making them vulnerable to ground fire.Chinese helicopters would have to be massively better than Russian helicopters for any successful operation against a modern foe.

俄罗斯直升机必须明显地发现目标,并逐个击破。 在乌克兰冲突初期,俄罗斯攻击直升机在不到 1 公里的距离内攻击目标,很容易受到地面火力的攻击。  要想成功打击现代敌人,中国直升机的性能必须大大优于俄罗斯直升机。


Granatmof
10小时前
Matching the current capabilities of your adversaries to be more on par with them isn't necessarily a bad thing. The US and Soviets did it for years with slight improvements to try to match and exceed performance in some cases. China developing a heavy attack chopper isn't surprising, just as the British, French or even Swedish militaries doing the same. Honestly I'm surprised China doesn't have an attack chopper before now.

与对手的现有能力相匹配以达到更高水平并不一定是坏事。美国和苏联多年来都是这样做的,在某些情况下稍作改进就能达到甚至超过对手的性能。中国研发重型攻击直升机并不奇怪,就像英国、法国甚至瑞典军队也在做同样的事情一样。老实说,我很惊讶中国现在还没有攻击直升机。


Buckaroobonsi
12小时前
It is so foolish for China to build an attack helicopter. If Ukraine vs Russia has taught us anything operating atack helicopters is as foolish today as airbourne troops are. In the age of plentiful MANPADS make attack helicopters obsolete on the battlefield. Likewise low flying jets are also not a great idea.

中国建造攻击直升机实在是太愚蠢了。如果说乌克兰与俄罗斯的战争给了我们什么启示的话,那么今天使用攻击直升机就像使用空中部队一样愚蠢。在便携式防空导弹泛滥的时代,攻击直升机在战场上已经过时。同样,低空喷气式飞机也不是好主意。


Soon all Tanks and semi-armoured vechiles will have automated air deffense built in and systems like Ironfist. I understand they have been working at stealing the needed technology to do this for a while but sometimes you have to be smart enough to know when to stop and change course!

很快,所有坦克和半装甲车辆都将内置自动防空系统和类似 "铁拳"的系统。我知道他们一直在努力窃取实现这一目标所需的技术,但有时你必须足够聪明,知道何时应该停止并改变方向!


Vegetassj
10小时前
Latest helicopter missiles have a range of 20 to 25 km, which is out of the range of MANPADS. Also, they can now drop loitering munitions. The russian attack helicopters suffered a lot because their missiles were primitive in range and target guidance

最新的直升机导弹射程为 20 至 25 公里,超出了肩扛导弹的射程。此外,它们现在还能投掷闲散弹药。俄罗斯的攻击直升机吃了不少亏,因为它们的导弹在射程和目标制导方面都很原始。


Tiagogomes
1小时前
Russia almost took Control of Antonov airbase.Of they had achieved it they would have indeed won the war in 2 weeks.Attack Helicopters are Formidable weapons who can achieve what none other equipment can.With lots of losses, sure. But if they achieve their goal they save thousands of lifes and equipments elsewhere.

俄罗斯几乎控制了安东诺夫空军基地。如果他们成功了,他们就会在两周内赢得战争。攻击直升机是一种强大的武器,可以实现其他装备无法实现的目标。当然,他们会损失惨重。但如果他们实现了目标,就能挽救成千上万人的生命和其他地方的装备。


Westtex
13小时前
Made with engines illegally developed for it by Pratt & Whitney Canada, which exported 10 engines to China in 2001 and 2002, to be used in the Z-10. P&W-C thought it was ok since the engines were similar to civilian engines they were already supplying to China. However the software they gave the Chinese to control the engines had been modified for military applications & would have required an arms export license. They got a $75m fine, but not much else.

使用加拿大普惠公司为其非法开发的发动机制造,该公司于 2001 年和 2002 年向中国出口了 10 台发动机,用于 Z-10 战斗机。普惠公司认为这没有问题,因为这些发动机与他们已经供应给中国的民用发动机相似。然而,他们提供给中国人用于控制发动机的软件已被修改用于军事用途,因此需要获得武器出口许可证。他们因此被罚款 7500 万美元,但仅此而已。


ReviveHF
13小时前
When US copied HO229 , none bats the eyes When China copy Apache, everyone lost their mind

当美国仿制 HO229 时,没有人眨一下眼睛,当中国抄袭阿帕奇时,所有人都失去了理智!


Swguren
12小时前
Nobody copied HO229, that was a myth which has been debunked. The 229 wasn’t stealthy+ Northrop made a bunch of flying wings before the 229 was even a thing.

没有人仿造 HO229,那是一个已经被揭穿的谎言。229 并不隐身+ 在 229 出现之前,诺斯罗普就已经制造了大量飞翼。


Inwzwan
12小时前
US took German nazi tons of scientist and make explaination they didn't copied anything And after 60years of later technology if you still can't make stalthy. The designer should go jobless

美国带走了德国纳粹的大量科学家,并解释说他们没有抄袭任何东西。60年后的今天,如果你还不能做到隐身,设计师就应该失业。


Grillnanchilln
16小时前
It's not Apache, it's lighter, faster, but carried less weight and has less fire power. In warfare today, helicopters are good anti-tank units but can be easily shot down with personel launcher using stinger missiles if going into urban warfare. One advantage of this attack helicopter is it's much cheaper to produce, but helicopter might soon retire and replaced by drones.

它不是阿帕奇,它更轻、更快,但重量更轻,火力更弱。在当今战争中,直升机是很好的反坦克部队,但如果进入城市战,很容易被使用毒刺导弹的人员发射器击落。这种攻击直升机的一个优点是生产成本更低,但直升机可能很快就会退役,被无人机取代。


Nizicike
17小时前
my view:it is for augmenting naval amphibious landing ship Type 075 or future Type 076. All naval choppers are one size bigger. when troops hit the beach, they need fire support -say dropping 1 ton munition.Z-10 on the other hand a dedicated tank killer is too small.

我认为:这是用于增强海军 075 型两栖登陆舰或未来的 076 型两栖登陆舰。所有的海军直升机都是大一号的。当部队登陆海滩时,他们需要火力支援--比如投掷 1 吨重的弹药。而作为坦克杀手的 Z-10 则太小了。


Prgamer
17小时前
Russia may not have the best military equipment but atleast they are innovative and try their best to create their own stuff, China on the other hand copies everything. China is like that one kid who copies from both the smart kid(USA) and the not so smart kid(Russia)

俄罗斯可能没有最好的军事装备,但至少他们勇于创新,尽力创造自己的东西。中国就像一个既抄袭聪明孩子(美国)又抄袭不太聪明孩子(俄罗斯)的孩子。


Swguren
17小时前
Is America smart? So being overtaken by China in the international system it dominates?

美国聪明?所以在自己主导的国际体系下被中国超越?


Zhishuaixu
11小时前
What about countries that can't even copy?

那些连复制都做不到的国家怎么办?


Joshdenton
18小时前
The technical principle of the Helicopter rotor was copied from the Chinese by the Europeans!(Including the Wright brothers), these have clear historical records. See the Wikipedia entry for "Helicopter rotor"

直升机旋翼的技术原理是欧洲人从中国复制过来的! (包括莱特兄弟),这些都有明确的历史记录。参见维基百科 "直升机旋翼"条目!


PresidentEvil
17小时前
Wrong.The Wrights pioneered propellers as vertical wings.And they did thousands of wind-tunnel tests.The credit for powered flight belongs to them.

错误,莱特兄弟率先将螺旋桨作为垂直机翼,他们还进行了数千次风洞试验。动力飞行的功劳属于他们。


Joshdenton
17小时前
I mean the technical principles, not the technology itself

我指的是技术原理,而不是技术本身!


Tylerdurden
18小时前
Lmfao, am I the only one that sees eurocopter and not apache? Racism sure makes americans DaF.

笑死我了,难道只有我看到了欧洲直升机,而不是阿帕奇?种族主义肯定会让美国人崩溃。


Douginorlando
18小时前
China now mass producing 7 nm chips, jet engines better than what’s available from Russia, and aircraft (both commercial and military).The last area China remains behind is space. A Chinese company with a good track record of delivering on promises plans to launch a Falcon 9 equivalent reusable rocket by late 2025.  China plans to rapidly deploy a starlink equivalent network with 10,000+ satellites.

中国正在大规模生产 7 纳米芯片、比俄罗斯更好的喷气发动机和飞机(包括商用和军用飞机),中国最后一个落后的领域是太空。一家在兑现承诺方面有着良好记录的中国公司计划在 2025 年末发射一枚相当于猎鹰 9 号的可重复使用火箭。 中国计划迅速部署一个拥有 10,000 多颗卫星的星链网络。


Ywzmwn
18小时前
Space? China will land a man on the moon before 2030, and plans to establish a base on the moon by 2035, while NASA claimed as early as 2016 that the United States will land a man on the moon faster than China, I do not know why it is still unable to do it now? Is the US even less skilled now than it was in the 1960s? And China can build its own space station. Can the US?

太空?中国在2030年之前就要载人登月,并且计划2035年在月球建立基地,而美国NASA早在2016年就声称美国要比中国更快载人登陆月球,不知道为什么现在依旧无法做到?难道美国现在的技术甚至不如60年代吗?还有中国可以独立制造空间站,美国能吗?
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