以色列和美国关系:谁在发号施令?

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以色列和美国关系:谁在发号施令?为了讨论以色列游说团体和美以关系的本质,《巴勒斯坦、以色列和美国帝国》一书的作者理查德-贝克(Richard Becker)与拉尼娅-卡里克(Rania Khalek)进行了讨论。

以色列和美国关系:谁在发号施令?

以色列和美国关系:谁在发号施令?

Lacyjen
6小时前
A narrated genocide traumatizing the world

讲述了一场给世界带来创伤的种族灭绝!


Aliciaczechow
6小时前
Us has empowered it with a vengeance.Heart breaking that no country has stepped in to make life impossible for the iof.

美国赋予了它复仇的力量,令人心碎的是,没有一个国家介入!


Yippeeyokai
6小时前
It would have to be a country like china.

它必须是一个像中国这样的国家。(网贴翻译来自音飞网)


Jacque
6小时前
china strongly believes that the only solution to resolving conflicts is diplomacy. Getting involved militarily would only escalate the situation and death toll on all sides, which needs to be avoided at all cost.

中国坚信外交是解决冲突的唯一办法。军事介入只会使局势升级,造成各方人员伤亡,必须不惜一切代价避免。


Meuknowwho
6小时前
We are at the beginning stages of ww3 and china is doing what the usa did in ww2. Step back and let everyone else get exhausted and ruined before they make a strong move

我们正处于第三次世界大战的初期阶段,而中国正在做美国在第二次世界大战中做过的事。后退一步,让其他人精疲力竭、身败名裂之后,他们再采取强有力的行动。


Yippeeyokai
6小时前
my point was it would have to be a country that could stand up to america.

我的意思是,它必须是一个能与美国抗衡的国家。


Jwscandi
5小时前(修改过)
Don't worry because lebanon, yemen, iraq and their bigger brother iran have been pounding izrl since 7 months ago till today and it continues till right now... Netanyahu is lost already and he knows that... Netanyahu couldn't reach any of his goals in last 7 months and he won't achieve anything ... 35000 civilians have sacrificed their life to reach freedom for all palestinians...

别担心,因为黎巴嫩、也门、伊拉克和他们的老大哥伊朗从 7 个月前开始就一直在打击以色列,直到今天,而且一直持续到现在...... 内塔尼亚胡已经输了,他知道这一点... 内塔尼亚胡在过去 7 个月中无法实现任何目标,他也不会实现任何目标... 35000名平民为所有巴勒斯坦人的自由献出了生命...


Perceivedreality
6小时前
Instead of arming israel, us tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education and homelessness.

美国纳税人的钱应该花在基础设施、医疗保健、教育和无家可归者身上,而不是武装以色列。


Flyingdutchess
4小时前
Considering israel has free outstanding medical care, free quality education and generous cost of living stippen for anyone who needs it.-free.Usa taxpayers for israel or else this chaos in and out of usa . What in the world did we get ourselves into?

考虑到以色列有免费的优质医疗服务、免费的优质教育和慷慨的生活费用,任何需要的人都可以免费享受。美国纳税人为以色列买单,而我们的国家已经陷入混乱,我们到底是怎么了?


Christophercooper
4小时前
Look how lovely switzerland is. They are neutral. They haven't had any wars and neither have their taxpayers funded them.

看看瑞士多可爱,他们是中立国。他们没有经历过任何战争,纳税人也没有为战争提供资金。


Chrisdman
4小时前
Everyone in swizzerland is in the army, swisserland has more underground bunkers and guns than charlton heston did. Before you go letten everyone know you know nothing about the swiss, try doing some research  about how the country actually defends themselves and their long standing policies and laws. Who they support and why. And oh ya, take a gander at their deportation and immigration policies, and feel free to poost what they actually do to those who are in their country illegally!

瑞士每个人都是军人,瑞士的地下掩体和枪支比查尔顿-赫斯顿的还多。在你让大家知道你对瑞士一无所知之前,请试着研究一下这个国家究竟是如何保卫自己的,以及他们的长期政策和法律。他们支持谁,为什么支持。哦,对了,还可以看看他们的驱逐出境和移民政策,并尽情吐槽一下他们究竟是如何对待那些非法入境者的!


Ponderingspirit
4小时前
They have massive taxation and miserable weather. Also the migrants are mostly housed in separate areas from the rest of the population. These areas then become ghettos and the migrants find it difficult to integrate and get jobs due to suspicion. This grows contempt and alienation. Now we are seeing real violence erupt due to neglect and stubbornness.

瑞士的税收很高,天气也很糟糕。此外,移民大多被安置在与其他人口分开的地区。这样一来,这些地区随后变成了贫民窟,移民们会发现,由于受到怀疑,他们很难融入社会,也很难找到工作。这加剧了蔑视和疏远。现在,由于忽视和固执,我们看到真正的暴力正在爆发。


Touchez
6小时前
Us should be boycotted at least for its support of the gxnocxde of palestinians. Us is same as israel

美国应该被抵制,至少因为它支持巴勒斯坦人的种族灭绝。美国和以色列一样!


Gkappa
6小时前
Obviously the person calling the shots is the leader of the united states of america, president netanyahu!

很明显,发号施令的人是美利坚合众国的领导人,内塔尼亚胡总统!


Nodiraa
6小时前
We need to understand something - we don't really have much power in vote due to our electoral arrangements. There is absolutely no way to have any party ruling other than rep or dem. I can't wait for the americans to finally realize that those two are the same sh...t different name.

我们需要了解一些事情——由于我们的选举安排,我们在投票方面并没有太多的权力。除了共和党或民主党,绝对不可能有其他政党执政。我等不及美国人最终意识到这两个人是一样的…不同的名字。


Edelgyn
6小时前
Lol our votes mean nothing when the candidates will not represent out interests.

哈哈~~当候选人不能代表我们的利益时,我们的选票就毫无意义了。


Spiral.dynamics
6小时前
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for israel.

不要问你的国家能为你做什么,问你能为以色列做什么?


Thomashall
6小时前
You don't need to control the entire population as seen now but just the power at the top. The us government does not rule america. The wealth does and who are they?

你不需要像现在这样控制全部人口,而只需要控制最高层的权力美国政府并没有统治美国。财富才是,他们是谁?


Genuineappeal
6小时前
Open borders, inflation, crime, poverty, homelessness, i assume the government for the people by the people are not the american people.

开放边境、通货膨胀、犯罪、贫困、无家可归,我认为民有民治的政府不是美国人民。


Bisquick
6小时前
This is such an important question and discussion. I've been saying that israel is a massive us military installation, masquerading as a country, for ages. This is the first interview i've heard where this opinion is confirmed and backed up.

这是一个非常重要的问题和讨论。我早就说过,以色列是美国的一个大型军事设施,伪装成一个国家。这是我听到的第一个证实并支持这一观点的采访。


Davidpate
6小时前
They even say it out loud: Israel is the unsinkable aircraft carrier

他们甚至会大声说出来:以色列是永不沉没的航空母舰!


Jillianemerson-me8cx
6小时前
Agreed. Israel is a giant military base. And the u s is also a giant military base.

同意,以色列是一个巨大的军事基地,美国也是一个巨大的军事基地。


Memxfgtwjd
6小时前
Thank you for bringing up that people just blaming jewish zionism leaves imperialism off the hook. It's so tiring having to keep explaining to people who go down the 'jewish banker' road that actually blaming the jews won't fix imperialism because it's capitalism's fault..

感谢你提出人们只是指责犹太复国主义,而不去追究帝国主义的责任。不得不不断向那些走“犹太银行家”道路的人解释,指责犹太人并不能解决帝国主义问题,因为这是资本主义的错……


Dhaktizero
6小时前
Let's not ignore the fact that there is a unique, serious, tangible overlap in the membership and personal association between the oligarchies of israel and the us, regardless of whether or not you handwave acknowledgement of that fact as an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

让我们不要忽视这样一个事实,即以色列和美国的寡头集团在成员和个人联系方面存在独特、严重、切实的重叠,无论你是否将承认这一事实视为反犹太阴谋论。


The fact that israel is a small country is irrelevant to this. A small oligarchy can control a large country; this is far from new or unprededented, especially when supported by a large global web of other oligarchies which all mutually benefit from the byproducts of their actions.

以色列是一个小国的事实与此无关。一个小寡头就能控制一个大国;这并不是什么新鲜事,也不是没有先例的,尤其是在其他寡头组成的全球大网络的支持下,这些寡头都能从其行动的副产品中相互获益。


Perceivedreality
6小时前
We must not be silent while witnessing injustice. Israel is committing war crimes and us is complicit in those crimes.

当我们目睹不公正时,绝不能保持沉默。以色列正在犯下战争罪行,而美国则是这些罪行的同谋。


Messaoudiali
6小时前
The mic dictates americas flawed foreign policy.It just happens to align perfectly 99.999 % of the time with the demands of aipac. It’s a symbiotic relationship that split the cost of buying every politician in america and the uk .

麦克风决定了美国有缺陷的外交政策。而美国外交政策在 99.999% 的时间里恰好与色列公共事务委员会(Aipac)的要求完全一致。这是一种共生关系,它分担了收买美国和英国所有政客的成本。


Tormunnvii
6小时前
The usa does not get very much from its unconditional support for israel, quite the contrary actually. Individual us politicians, however, get alot from the israel lobby.

美国并没有从对以色列的无条件支持中获得多少好处,实际上恰恰相反。然而,美国的个别政客却从以色列游说集团那里得到了很多好处。


Mohammedsahor
6小时前
Did you get the answer from the video titled who's calling the shots? I didn't.

您从题为 “谁在发号施令”的视频中得到答案了吗?我没有。


Legshowmagazine
5小时前(修改过)
The us military industrial complex. That's who calls the shots.

美国军事工业综合体,这就是发号施令的人。


Fahmad
5小时前
The military industrial complex is calling the shots This is going to be a great tragedy of our generation. This is what we will be remembered for. It's shameful

军事工业综合体正在发号施令!这将是我们这一代的巨大悲剧,这是我们将被铭记的,这是可耻的!


Ahhaz
6小时前
Aipac supports & funds us politicians. In return politicians provide aipac subsidies, lower taxes & other financial facilities.

色列公共事务委员会(Aipac)支持并资助我们的政客。作为回报,政客们向 Aipac 提供补贴、低税率和其他财政便利。


Taxfinancetip
6小时前
Giant military base and pro isreal lobby power walk together: There is no ond without the other. One fuel the other. Two faces of the same lony.

庞大的军事基地和亲以色列的游说力量走在一起: 两者缺一不可,二者相辅相成。同一个人的两张脸。


Gelbaits
6小时前
But why if it's only a military base does the us have to swear allegiance to it? The base argument makes good sense. What doesn't is do many sections of the us being forced to swear eternal

但如果它只是一个军事基地,为什么美国人要宣誓效忠它呢?基地的说法很有道理。但不符合逻辑的是,美国的许多部门都被迫宣誓效忠。


Infiniti
5小时前(修改过)
Unconditional allegiance. That's not necessary for the us but it is vital for and seems imposed by. Israel. I wonder at so many sections of the us especially of radically different races all swearing such intense loyalty to israel.

无条件效忠。这对美国来说没有必要,但对以色列来说至关重要,而且似乎是以色列强加给我们的。以色列,我很奇怪,美国有这么多的人,尤其是种族截然不同的人,都对以色列宣誓如此强烈的忠诚。


I imagine that many must be secretly pissed. But whatever it does seem the us israel relationship is two way and the client has enormous influence over the master. Can any other us client demand and get a joint session of congress to fawn over its pm

我猜想许多人一定在暗地里生气。但无论如何,美国与以色列的关系似乎是双向的,客户对主人有巨大的影响力。还有哪个美国客户能要求并获得国会联席会议对其总理大献殷勤呢?


Factual
6小时前(修改过)
A us military base? Where there is no control over the activities and behaviour of management we cannot use that title for israel

美军基地?在无法控制管理层的活动和行为的地方,我们不能用这个名称来称呼以色列。


Kingace
6小时前
It is crazy how israel is the one with leverage and is blackmailing the world's sole superpower. At that point, can we even call ourselves a superpower anyore?

以色列是拥有筹码的一方,而且还在勒索世界上唯一的超级大国,这太疯狂了。在这一点上,我们还能称得上超级大国吗?


J.philipjimenez
6小时前
The confusion emanates from the fact that both israel and the us government/military are being run from london. Israel was set up by the uk. The us, over the past several decades, has been maneuvered around to serve what have been historically british imperial objectives. This is more true today than ever.

这种混乱源于这样一个事实,即以色列和美国政府/军队都由伦敦管理。以色列是英国建立的。过去几十年来,美国一直被操纵着,为历史上英国帝国主义的目标服务。今天,这一点比以往任何时候都更加真实。


Israel was known as the uk's "Fifth dominion" And was literally conceived of by the british oligarchy, specifically lord palmerston.

以色列被称为英国的 “第五领地”,是由英国寡头,特别是帕默斯顿勋爵构想出来的。


It is a testament to the craftiness of brits that almost no one even acknowledges their central and guiding role in the present horror show. They have always managed to get everyone pointing fingers elsewhere--largely because global media have been largely guided by british interests for a little over 100 years.

几乎没有人承认他们在这场恐怖秀中的核心和指导作用,这足以证明英国人的狡猾。他们总能让大家把矛头指向别处--这主要是因为全球媒体在过去的 100 多年里一直在很大程度上受英国利益的左右。
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