新加坡年轻人如何看待新加坡的收入不平等?

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新加坡年轻人如何看待新加坡的收入不平等?

新加坡年轻人如何看待新加坡的收入不平等?

新加坡年轻人如何看待新加坡的收入不平等?

Nicole-lv
6小时前
When I graduated in early '90s, it is still possible, with a good degree, to afford a private house and a car if you start from zero. Let's just say that it is impossible, or incredibly hard, to do so now.

我在 90 年代初毕业时,如果从零开始,拥有一个好学位,还是有可能买得起私宅和汽车的。只能说,现在要做到这一点是不可能的,或者说难上加难。


Shanwen
3小时前
SG is one of the few countries that allow the flexibility to live cheaply.

新加坡是少数几个可以灵活地过上廉价生活的国家之一。


Daelaron
6小时前
We actually still have the same kind of issues here in Germany, which most people would say is a really rich country. The income gap can be pretty insane. Generational wealth and opportunities through your family's standing on the social ladder, or nepotism are absolutely a thing. It's not an easy thing to solve. Just getting richer on average as a country won't solve it.

实际上,我们德国也有同样的问题,大多数人都会说德国是一个非常富裕的国家。收入差距可能非常疯狂。通过家庭在社会阶梯上的地位或裙带关系,代代相传的财富和机会绝对是个问题。要解决这个问题并不容易。作为一个国家,只是平均变得更富有并不能解决这个问题。


More social security nets are working pretty well but if not done right can also just have a bandaid effect instead. Minimum wages are very important. As well as then forbidding employers to hire cheap foreigners, or outsourcing their production to cheaper countries. Otherwise it'll just be a global domino effect of wealthy people hiring the cheapest worker, making the local worker go jobless in their field of expertise,

建立更多的社会保障网效果很好,但如果做得不好,也只会产生 “创可贴 ”的效果。最低工资非常重要。此外,禁止雇主雇用廉价的外国人,或将生产外包给更廉价的国家。否则,就会在全球范围内产生多米诺骨牌效应,富人雇用最廉价的工人,使本地工人在自己的专业领域失业。


and braindrain for the poorer country by taking their skilled workers away, as well as making your own native population poorer on the low end. If employers hire a foreigner they should always earn the exact same, and have the same insurance etc. as a native worker, and on the more extreme end, maybe even have the employer face a tariff for hiring from outside.

通过带走较贫穷国家的技术工人来流失他们的人才,同时也使你自己的本土人口在低端变得更穷。如果雇主雇佣一个外国人,他们的收入应该和本地工人一样,有同样的保险等,在更极端的情况下,甚至可能让雇主面对雇佣外国人的关税。


Zibobpompon
8小时前
What a stupid world we live in ,everything is about money in this life ,simple things like having a house and buy food should not be unaffordable , life is not about performing all the time we need to build another model because all of these have no meaning .

我们生活在一个多么愚蠢的世界里,生活中的一切都是为了钱,简单的事情如拥有房子和购买食物不应该是负担不起的,生活不是为了一直表演,我们需要建立另一种模式,因为所有这些都没有意义。


Moseswong
4小时前
Well if you take away modern technology and go back to Stone Age, you still have to hunt to survive and putting your life at risk. So the world we live in now isn’t that bad. To be honest.

如果剔除现代科技,回到石器时代,你仍然需要靠狩猎来生存,并将生命置于危险之中。所以,我们现在生活的世界并没有那么糟糕。说实话


Hnytakdeep
3小时前
bro.. many people will trade their life with yours. if you want a simpler life, there is always Indonesia. You can simply marry local there and spend the rest of your life with saving you got from first world.

很多人愿意用他们的生活和你的生活交换。如果你想过简单点的生活,印尼是个不错的选择。您只需与当地人结婚,然后用从第一世界攒下的钱度过余生。


however.. everything there will be disfunctional, I know you all singaporeans are very ungretful and like to complain. There you are lucky if you can think and complain

不过......那里的一切都会很不正常,我知道你们新加坡人都很不善于表达不满,喜欢抱怨。在那里,你能思考和抱怨就已经很幸运了。


Wilshen
10小时前
Other than accommodation, Singapore is pretty affordable to live in. Hawker is generally very cheap. There's nowhere in 1st world country where u can find a full meal that is within 5 dollars.

除住宿外,新加坡的生活费用相当低廉。小贩一般都很便宜。在第一世界国家,没有任何地方能让您吃一顿 5 美元以内的正餐。


Kingdom
8小时前
also no where in the 1st world where a basic car cost a few hundred thousands of dollars.

在第一世界的任何地方,一辆基本的汽车都要几十万美元。


Wilshen1
8小时前
honestly can't imagine how congested Sg will be if cars are made very affordable. Probably will be like bkk or Jakarta. Mrt is easily accessible anyway

说实话,我无法想象如果汽车变得非常便宜,新加坡会有多拥挤。可能会像曼谷或雅加达一样。反正地铁很方便!


Vharder
6小时前(修改过)
One of the reasons why hawkers are able to sell cheap is because they don't even change their cooking oil for a week or so. You may be able to save now but then spend a lot on insurance or expensive healthcare later on in life.

小贩之所以卖得便宜,原因之一是他们甚至一周左右都不换食用油。也许你现在可以节省开支,但以后却要在保险或昂贵的医疗保健上花费很多。


Yutajosh
1小时前(修改过)
With 5 dollars, you will be able to enjoy a meal filled with either rice, noodles or flour N a few strands of meat mostly. Causing nutritional deficiencies in a long run.

5 块钱就能吃上一顿饭,不是米饭、面条就是粉条,大部分是几丝肉。长此以往,会造成营养缺乏。


Shurakishi
13分钟前
which first world country got very healthy food for $5?

哪个第一世界国家能用 5 美元买到非常健康的食品?


Halian
7小时前
Please don't compare Singapore to Japan. The Japanese are a largely unified community well-known for taking care of each other, whether economic or natural disaster. Singapore is 1) every man for himself 2) no welfare state, no free lunches 3) "if you don't work hard, you deserve to be a garbage collector"

请不要将新加坡与日本相提并论。日本是一个大体上团结的社会,无论是经济还是自然灾害,都以互相照顾而闻名。新加坡则是:1)人人为我 2)没有福利国家,没有免费午餐 3)“如果你不努力工作,你就活该去捡垃圾 。”


4) Ministers award themselves high salaries because otherwise they won't do the job - meanwhile, there is no national minimum wage. No amount of money made by Singapore or Singaporeans can buy the good social graces or community spirit of Japan.

4)部长们给自己高薪,因为否则他们就不会做这份工作--同时,没有全国最低工资。新加坡或新加坡人赚再多的钱,也买不来日本良好的社会风气或社区精神。


It is an illusion perpetrated by the Singapore government to make Singapore look desirable to the rich and to attract foreign talent and wealth. The government claims this will "help create jobs for Singaporeans". Half the country is foreigners, and the government actively replaces Singaporeans with "new citizens". Singaporeans are punished every year with increasing cost of living, in a country well known for having high income inequality. Singapore is rich, but not Singaporeans.

这是新加坡政府制造的一个假象,目的是让富人对新加坡刮目相看,吸引外国人才和财富。政府声称这将 “有助于为新加坡人创造就业机会”。新加坡有一半人口是外国人,政府积极地用 “新公民”取代新加坡人。在这个以收入高度不平等而闻名的国家,新加坡人每年都受到生活成本增加的惩罚。新加坡很富有,但新加坡人并不富有。


Singaporean
7小时前
younger generation should blame themselves for not saving. I see younger generation almost everyday drink bubbles tea, drink Starbucks. A cup a bubble tea or Starbucks can buy 30 eggs.

年轻一代应该为没有储蓄而自责。我看到年轻一代几乎每天都在喝泡沫红茶、喝星巴克。一杯泡沫红茶或星巴克可以买 30 个鸡蛋。


Mengkhiang
6小时前
Japan had deflation for the past 30 years

日本在过去 30 年中一直处于通货紧缩状态!


Shurakishi
6小时前
the deflation and collapse of their economy was due to wrong decisions that were made in the 1980s like increasing the value of Japanese yen. The world and US in particular ended up purchasing less of Japanese goods and this caused the collapse.

日本经济的通货紧缩和崩溃是由于 20 世纪 80 年代做出的错误决定,如提高日元币值。全世界,尤其是美国最终减少了对日本商品的购买,从而导致了经济崩溃。


While this is dissimilar to the current Singapore state, we are approaching to something similar because we are becoming more and more expensive in everything. Less and less will want to invest in Singapore cos it is costly to do so

虽然这与新加坡目前的状况不同,但我们正在接近类似的情况,因为我们的一切都变得越来越昂贵。越来越少的人愿意在新加坡投资,因为投资成本很高。


Nelsonyip
5小时前
The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer…

富人会更富,穷人会更穷......


Simonquek
5小时前
Not likely Singaporean will get better.. more educated will migrated to other countries with more opportunity... more than half of work Force in Singapore is foreigner.

新加坡人不太可能变得更好…更多受过教育的人将移民到其他有更多机会的国家…新加坡一半以上的劳动力是外国人。


Waynetr
4小时前
Actually, you're wrong. The average Singaporean is pretty wealthy. It's just that you have grown accustomed to it. Try living in one of our neighbouring countries on their local wage. Also, Japan is heavily romanticised. The working culture the will suck your soul, and for very low pay.

事实上,你错了。普通新加坡人都很富有。只是你们已经习以为常了。试着用当地人的工资在我们的邻国生活吧。另外,日本被浪漫化了。那里的工作文化会吸走你的灵魂,而且工资很低。


Shurakishi
4小时前
I do not think that the average singaporean is very wealthy. Majority are middle-class average persons. That does not mean wealthy. There are reports that the proportion of our own savings have decreased, due to having need to pay for increased costs of living.

我不认为普通新加坡人非常富有。大多数人都是中产阶级。这并不意味着富有。有报道称,由于需要支付增加的生活费用,我们自己的储蓄比例有所下降。


This certainly does not spell wealthy. You mention Japan's working culture. I deliberately did not mention this in my first comment post. Sg's working culture is VERY VERY similar to japan now, and people are getting off work later and later. If you board the MRT daily at night you will seee what i mean.

这当然不意味着富裕。你提到了日本的工作文化。我在第一篇评论文章中故意没有提到这一点。现在,新加坡的工作文化与日本非常非常相似,人们的下班时间越来越晚。如果您每天晚上乘坐地铁,就会明白我的意思。


NickHau
12小时前
These questions are so simple yet so difficult to answer... Having lived in both Malaysia and Sg, it almost feels like in sg, your life isnt actually yours especially if youre in middle to lower income classes..

这些问题如此简单却又如此难以回答...... 我在马来西亚和新加坡都生活过,几乎感觉在新加坡,你的生活实际上并不属于你自己。特别是如果你是中低收入阶层......


going out for drinks to socialise & network costs a BOMB for an average person in sg and eats up almost 1/10 of most average singaporean salary..

对新加坡的普通人来说,出去喝酒社交和建立人际关系的花费是一笔巨款,几乎占了大多数新加坡人平均工资的 1/10。


Revolusirev
10小时前
Singapore as a global city means everyone wants to go there and invest, and so that pushes up the house prices this is gentrification on a global scale

新新加坡作为一个全球城市,意味着每个人都想去那里投资,这就推高了房价,这是全球范围内的中产阶级化!


StephanieRussel
7小时前
Singapore is expensive only the rental and perhaps owning a car. Other than that, its still ok, its up to the choices u make. Compared to malaysia 1 bubble tea cost about 15rm. imagine making 2000RM per month. how to afford bubble tea. where as in SG, only $3.50. I think only the private housing and cost of owning a car in SG is expensive. other than that, still ok.

新加坡只有租车和买车比较贵。除此以外,其他方面还是可以的,这取决于你的选择。与马来西亚相比,一杯泡沫红茶的价格约为 15 令吉。试想一下,每月收入 2000令吉的人如何买得起泡沫红茶,而在新加坡,只需 3.50 美元。我认为新加坡只有私人住房和拥有汽车的费用比较昂贵。


Alfarolex
4小时前
Education is the key to success even if you are poor. You cannot choose where or how you are born, but you can choose how you die.

即使贫穷,教育也是成功的关键。你无法选择在哪里出生或如何出生,但你可以选择如何死去。


Evesy3180
12小时前
Even though there are new opportunities for the current generation, it does not mean that everyone can grab it. Back in the old days, they can buy a food at a lower price. But now the prices of food are soaring. The prices of rent in Singapore is on average $1000 per month at least. Plus now they are so many tech layoffs and other companies are willing to layoff which means some careers are not that secure as it seems. Back in the old days, everyone can have a secure job very easily.

尽管当代人有了新的机遇,但这并不意味着每个人都能抓住它。在过去,他们可以用较低的价格买到食品。但现在食品价格飞涨。新加坡的房租平均每月至少要 1000 美元。再加上现在很多科技公司裁员,其他公司也愿意裁员,这意味着有些职业并不像看起来那么有保障。在过去,每个人都能轻松拥有一份稳定的工作。


RaiunHana
11小时前
Singaporeans usually don't need to rent though and HDB flats aren't actually that expensive because the buyer's CPF will usually offset the HDB loan repayment. All of my friends have their own HDB flat. It's only expensive if you want buying resale flats or private property.

新加坡人通常不需要租房,组屋实际上也不贵,因为买方的公积金通常可以抵消组屋贷款还款。我所有的朋友都有自己的组屋。只有当你想购买转售单位或私人房产时,组屋才会昂贵。


Johnne
11小时前
Entrepreneurship is the answer. Unfortunately this spirit is severely lacking in Singapore.

企业家精神就是答案。遗憾的是,新加坡严重缺乏这种精神。


AlanSmith
9小时前
Income equality is an impossible task to tackle. The economics of the world dictates that asset prices rise over time. In many cases it has been rising very rapidly over the last few years. So if you don’t own any assets, you will find it increasingly difficult to catch up.

收入平等是一项不可能完成的任务。世界经济学决定了资产价格会随着时间的推移而上涨。在许多情况下,资产价格在过去几年中上涨得非常快。因此,如果你没有任何资产,你会发现越来越难赶上。
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